The gumbo up George Creek has been mentioned many times in my blog...obviously you all have not been paying attention or maybe it is best to experience it yourself so that thou will never, ever forget such thick, tenacious, clay infested, sticky muck-a-muck-e-yuk forever covering your precious riding machines. It's the only "gravel" road in this entire region that I will always avoid if there has been any recent moisture. Your bike will never be the same again...might as well buy a new chain now.