Hi Bruce, and Real truth Folks!,
Great commentary, at the beginning of your post by Deborah S. Simon: =20
excerpt:

Bruce Tanner wrote: Note: This whole controversy, currently in a
backwater of the "911 Truth Movement" stream of controversies,
exemplifies the difficulties in parsing out what happened, who the
players are, what the overall goals of the elite conspirators might be,
etc. If we are to have any hope of bringing healing to the world
situation now, we need to proceed with open hearts, open minds, and
great lashings of equanimity into the thicket of lies and disinfo....
"Richard Grove" presents so much deep background to the events of 911
in his material - begging questions of just how bald-faced the elite
disinformation agents are... - I strongly suspect that the ultimate
key to awakening from the ongoing nightmare IS simply to wake up, each
of us, to the nature of and unhappiness endemic to our own personal
egoic tendencies, and the clear, simple consciousness that the ego
structure covers up. - Bruce
Steve back: I will now give my feedback on Deb Simpsons comments on =20
Richard Grove/(pseudonym Eric Andrew Blair): Deborah choose to attack a
number of people, (including Phil Jayhan of:
http://www.letsroll911.org/, Karl Schwartz http://www.karlschwarz.com/
and Tom Flocco of: http://www.tomflocco.com/ ) Let's take a look at
these folks:
Phil Jayhan (of 911letsroll.com ), STRONGLY support LooseChange2,
and has recently had their website HACKED, (and now its back up), and
has GREAT 911 material. So Jayhan is a GOOD GUY!
Karl Schwartz was one of the EARLY ON people, claiming 911 was NOT
done by Arab terrorists, but was an INSIDE JOB. (About 6 months ago, he
stated that it was time to MOVE ON/beyond 911, but so did Michael
Ruppert, (who has done some magnificent work on 911, Book: "Crossing
the Rubicon', and his VERY EARLY(like 2 days later) reports on the 911
insider trading, and the Bush family background with the Nazi's in
WWII, so this doesn't mean that Schwarts is a bad guy. If you google
Karl Schwartz you will find the first couple pages have listings almost
omit him entirely!! For example a website that gives 'Karl Schwatz
Homepage", (with one of his same middle initials), is NOT the 911 Karl
Schwarts. (Is this all coincidence, or is someone trying to keep Karl
from being read?) When someone that has been active as long as Karl
Schwartz , and you can't find his site by Google, that makes me think
someone is attempting to make him less visible. For now, I'll leave
Schwartz as an: UNKNOWN, (but more likely a GOOD guy.)
Tom Flocco seems to report a fair amount of that he does not
establish with CLEAR evidence, but not clearly disinformation. (In that
sense, he reminds me of Greg Szymanski and Tom Henegan, both of whom I
believe are CLEARLY disinformation, because they have written
negatively about Steven Jones who is REALLY GREAT - (ie: Szymanski did
this), and Tom Henegan has written things that are just fantasy, (ie
underground attempts to bomb Fitzpatrick in Chicago. Valerie Plame
Prosecutor - Patrick Fitzpatrick is a TRAITOR!! (Fitzpatrick was a
prosecutor of the 1993 WTC bombing case, (which was clearly a FBI run
operation), and Fitzpatrick covered this up, (which is what Richard
Grove CORRECTLY states.) So a PLUS here for Grove, and a MINUS for
Simpson. (For info on traitor Fitzgerald see
http://www.newswithviews.com/Briley/Patrick4.htm (Patrick Briley by the
way is FANTASTIC!!! Read ALL his stuff and I mean that!!) (Szymanski,
also supports Capt May and Ghost Troops, (whom I have written
personally several times about his claims, and he REFUSES to even
respond, so I KNOW he is an agent provocateur.) Tom Flocco 'could be'
merely sloppy, (and trying to make a name for himself with prolific
writing), or he 'could be' disinformation, but is NOT clearly
disinformation. So thus far, we have One CLEARLY positive guy (Jayhan),
(that Simson has put down), and two other POSSIBLE good guys, but
clearly NOT bad guys. Thus far Simson is herself looking like the agent
provocateur!!!
Groves' use of chat rooms is NOT bad, and someone without money would =20
do this.
Whether billions, (or millions), in bullion were taken from under the
WTC is a mute point. The fact he IS reporting it and it as being MAJOR
is what is important. Simpson spends (over half) of her article
'debunking' the gold, as if this was ALL of Grove's story, and it is
such a SMALL part it is not funny, and the gold WAS stolen, just like
Grove says.
I agree with Grove that 911 was MUCH more than the Israeli's, not
that SOME of them weren't involved. Dov Zakheim has been pointed out
as a likely culprit, and he IS, (as the controller of this purse
strings of the DOD), but Grove AGREES with this TOO!!
Simspn's claim that they blew up the buildings since they had the
loot is NOT the reason they blew them up. The buildings were blown up
for several reasons. HUGE INSURANCE MONEY, to TERRORIZE AMERICANS (into
giving up their liberties and get them to go to war and spend big bucks
there), AND, the WTC buildings were NOT up with the times. (They were
not built in a computer age, did not have effect wiring, and other age
issues.) Getting the OLD buildings KNOCKED DOWN, and getting the
GOVERNMENT to REPLACE THEN FOR FREE with FEDERAL/PUBLIC for NEW
buildings, BINGO JACKPOT!! It was like winning the Lotto TRICE. So the
Buildings HAD TO BE BLOWN UP!! The Empire State building was REPAIRED
after the B25 hit it in WWII. (The WTC would likewise have been
repaired.) So they got NEW buildings, INSURANCE money, and Money for
the WAR OF TERROR, all in one fell swoop.
Who's military the cruise missile came from is a mute point, as the =20
covert government's of BOTH countries KNEW of the plot. Also Simpson
was also WRONG on the insurance companies all being VICTIMS. Insurance
Rates were raised sufficiently that Insurance companies profited
handsomely, and this was reported by Wayne Madsen, (as I recall), and
possibly others.
Simpson says there was NO link between Kroll and the WTC
demolitions. However, according to the Wayne Madsen's report: Kroll is
an intelligence asset: http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/ WASHINGTON,
DC, June 20, 2005 -(excerpt): "In September 2002, Kroll Inc., (a
shadowy firm with ties to the U.S. intelligence community), acquired
Zolfo-Cooper and Cooper was named managing director of Kroll Zolfo
Cooper. In May 2004, Marsh & McLennan acquired Kroll and Zolfo Cooper.
Jeffrey Greenberg, the son of AIG's Hank Greenberg, had earlier left
AIG to run Marsh & McLennan. The revolving doors and musical chairs
involving Enron, Kroll, Zolfo-Cooper, Marsh & McLennan, and AIG became
the subject of Spitzer's probes. Another insurance firm investigated by
Spitzer for price fixing of property casualty insurance coverage and
conspiracy was ACE, headed by Hank Greenberg's other son, Evan. In
October 2004, Jeffrey Greenberg quickly stepped down from Marsh &
McLennan amid Spitzer's investigation. clip.. (These are ALL things
that GROVE Covers in his PROJECT CONSTELLATION manuscript!!) Grove,
(like Madsen), names: AIG, March, ACE, Enron and Kroll!!
Let's be frank: The WTC buildings are ALL clearly controlled
demolitions. (Most clearly WTC7, which was the home of the FBI, CIA,
Secret Service, etc, and heavily guarded by these folks, 24/7. Yet the
building WAS demo'ed. So...the intelliegence folks WERE involved.
Kroll, (according to Madsen), IS an intelligence asset/front company,
so does this make Grove's allegations wrong? Grove said that many high
level executives were murdered, (by the person making the conference
call from his apartment, because: 'they knew too much, or too little.'
(It would have been better if Grove had been willing to name the name
of that executive, but I believe he did not because it was a sure death
sentence for him if he did, and he likely knew that.)
Securacom, Marvin Bush's company was in charge of security at
the WTC complex, and Kroll's (extra managers called in to do after
hours work), may or may not have been the people planting the
explosives, but Grove doesn't say this, (he only states that they are
there all night long many days, and are doing fraud, and that he is
suspicious of what they are up to.) He got fired for calling these
people on their fraud, his apartment was burglarized of his laptop, and
investigation notes taken, and had his credit ruined. (This can all be
checked out I am sure.)
The comment on the tsunami needing a hydrogen bomb is forgetting
one thing. Scalar weapons ARE more powerful than hydrogen bombs!
Kruschev stated in 1960: "We have discovered a fantastic new weapon, it
is more powerful than a hydrogen bomb, and makes us unable to be
attacked." Grove didn't say that s big hydrogen bomb was used. He says:
"Tesla-based weapons like HAARP." Grove points out that the major
earthquake in Iran happened exactly I year to the day of the Indonesian
tsunami. This has been pointed out by other researchers. Pretty slim
odds wouldn't you say? And what about the other things he brings up
about the dates being used for the creation and destruction of the WTC
towers, and attack on the Pentagon. The odd on that are astronomical
against that happening!!! So no, this was NOT coincidence, it was
planned. Why did 911 get chosen to be the emergency number in this
country? It was instituted back around the time the WTC were being
built.
The Illuminati give us clues. They think we are mostly to dumb to
figure these clues out, but they do it for others reasons as well. They
are into the occult. They are into rituals. They use black magic, and
rituals to institute their activities. Look at Bohemian Grove, and the
Owl ritual. Look at the connections to Skull & Bones, and other secret
societies. Masons, Jesuits, et al. These people plan things decades in
advance maybe even longer. Who is really behind this we may still not
know completely. David Icke is not a fool. He is a very enlightened
man. He talks about reptilians, and controllers that are not who we
think they are. Is he wrong? I believe he may know something important.
Read the Emerald Tablets of Thoth, or the ancient Sumerian texts, or
the book of Enoch, or some channelings like RA, and others, and they
day the same things. Personally I don't claim to have the answers to
that, but I do know that these dates are NOT mere coincidence. Simply,
they are designs, clear clear, and carried out over at minimum decades.
LONG term planning, applied to the use of ritualistic dates, etc.
I have absolutely no doubt that mind control is being used to
create assassins: Sirhan Sirhan, (who couldn't remember anything for
days prior to the shooting of RFK); or Mark Chapman, that shot John
Lennon, (with a crush on Jody Foster), then another man appears with an
identical MO/loves Foster/obsessed with Lennon, and is arrested by
police days after Chapman was arrested. (Two trained assassins, so that
one or the other gets through to Lennon.) Then there was John Hinckley
Jr, (and VERY good friends of the Bush family), who shoots Reagan.
Reagan and Chapman attended the same camp in Arkansas, (though a group
called 'Global Vision', a Christian charity group/CIA front, for mind
control assassins. RFK was shot by his body guard who was asked in
court if he killed RFK and he relied, I don't know in all the
commotion. (The bullet that killed Kennedy came from 2 inches from his
skull/powder burns from an extremely close range, and Sirhan never got
closer than 7 or feet.) The doorman killed Lennon, a known CIA agent,
whom had to convince the police that Chapman had shot Lennon as the
police didn't believe Chapman looked capable of doing so, upon arrival
at the scene of the shooting.
To be fairly frank with you, the slandering of the 8th estate
website for talking about the Jesuits, or astrotheology, mind control
or biowarfare is EXACTLY what these people are into. They are members
of secret societies, Skull & Bones, Bohemian Grove, etc, they use
numbers and the occult to plan their crimes, the create bioterror,
(2001 anthrax attacks to force the Patriot Act through), manmade AIDS
in Africa, etc. This ISN'T a 'conspiracy theory', it is a conspiracy
FACT!
ALOT of the people that Deborah Simpson is debunking I KNOW are GOOD =20
GUYS. David Icke IS a GOOD GUY. Read his site regularly and you will
know this. Webster Tarpley is FANTASTIC, and DEFINITELY A GOOD GUY.
Read his book, The unauthorized autobiography of George HW Bush,
especially chapter two: THE HILTER PROJECT." Link:
http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm Stanley Hilton SUED George Bush over
911, but the judges through it out of court. Soooo....my conclusion is:
the true disinformation person is NOT Richard Grove, but in fact,
DEBORAH SIMPSON!!
O.K. That's my take on this 'attempt to undermine the truth', being
given by Richard Grove, and the folks at the 8th estate website.
No one, (including Grove) is saying that SOME Israeli's are not
involved in 911. This is a given. However, it is NOT the Israeli's, it
is a much broader based, international group, that for now I will call
the Illuminati, which is made of many royal family members,
international bankers, drug runners, intelligence assets, media assets,
and so on. I REALLY believe this is the only possibility that will fit
all the parts of the puzzle. What do you all think? Love, Steve P.S.
When you get the chance peruse some of the following:

'World Control' Agenda and Media Complicity by Stephen Calkins
09/17/06
1.) Media Complicity in the Coverup of 911 Attacks:
The CIA covert project 'Mockingbird' placed a CIA representative in =20
every major news media outlet back in the 60's. This same program
continues today.
The following are a few recent examples of disinformation programs
concerning 911: "The Hidden Hand Of The CIA, 911 And Popular Mechanics"
By Christopher Bollyn Exclusive to American Free Press
www.americanfreepress.com 3-19-5 (excerpt) Mirror link:
http://www.rense.com/general63/brutalpurgeofPMstaff.htm (excerpt
follows)
...The president of Hearst Magazines, one of the world's largest
publishers of monthly magazines with 18 U.S. titles and more than 100
international editions, is Cathleen P. Black, a 60-year old native of
Chicago. Black oversees the publication of 175 titles around the world
including Cosmopolitan, Harpers Bazaar, Town & Country, Esquire, Good
Housekeeping, and Popular Mechanics. "Black is also a former president
and publisher of USA Today. In 1983, Black was made president of the
new newspaper published by Gannett. The following year she was made
publisher and soon became a member of Gannetts board of directors.
Despite her efforts, her biography reads, USA Today did not show an
operating profit in the eight years that Black was there. The
newspaper's non-profitability notwithstanding, Gannett paid Black
$600,000 a year for her efforts. USA Today reportedly had a circulation
of 1.8 million when Black left in 1991. USA Today is often given away
free of charge.  
Black left USA Today to become president and chief executive of the =20
nascent Newspaper Association of America (NAA), formed on June 1, 1992.
In 1995, for an annual salary reported to be "in excess of $1
million," Black was hired by Hearst Corp. to head its magazine
division. Black sits on the boards of Hearst Corp., the Advertising
Council, IBM, and Coca-Cola. She is also a member of the Council on
Foreign Relations.
It is often said that USA Today is controlled by the CIA, which,
like the paper, is based in McLean, Virginia. The little-known fact
that Black is married to Thomas E. Harvey, an obscure lawyer who became
a White House Fellow in 1977 and served as special assistant to the
Director of Central Intelligence (DCI). Black's corporate biography
does not mention her husband. The DCI at the time was Stansfield
Turner, who had replaced George H.W. Bush. Prior to serving the CIA,
Harvey worked at the New York law office of Milbank, Tweed, Hadley &
McCloy. The international law firm, co-founded by Morris Hadley, a 1916
member of Yale University's secret society Skull & Bones, has ties to
the CIA and lists William H. Webster, DCI from 1987-1991, as a senior
partner. Webster also serves on the Homeland Security Advisory Council.
Steve's Note: The following is an excerpt from the same (above
article), concerning what happened at Popular Mechanics magazine just
prior to its anti-911 'conspiracy theory' article:
THE COUP AT POPULAR MECHANICS - In the months leading up to the
Chertoff article in PM, a brutal take-over occurred at the magazine. In
September 2004, Joe Oldham, the magazines former editor-in-chief was
replaced by James B. Meigs, who came to PM with a deputy, Jerry
Beilinson, from National Geographic Adventure. In October, a new
creative director replaced PMs 21-year veteran who was given ninety
minutes to clear out of his office.
  A former senior editor at PM, who is forbidden from openly
discussing the coup at PM, told AFP that the former creative director
was abruptly told to leave and given severance pay of two weeks wages
for every year spent at PM. Three or four people have been similarly
dismissed every month since, he said. He said he was astounded that the
coup at PM had not been reported in the mainstream media...... clip..
There are a number of other recent media coverups of 911. Another
example is ABC's recent "The Path to 911", (where the Clinton
Administration was largely blamed for 911, due to failure to capture
bin Liden when it had the chance. Factually, both Bush and Clinton's
Administrations were not interested in capturing bin Laden, as he was
both an ally/asset. See: "The Power of Nightmares". BBC documentary
Link to video:
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/al_qaeda_doesnt_exist.htm
Another related article: Burden of Dreams: Cut-outs, moles, patsies and
provocateurs
http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=31&i=624&t=624 or, =20
(mirror link):
http://www.gnn.tv/blogs/7306/Cut_outs_moles_patsies_and_provocateurs
Time magazines recent cover story: "Conspiracy Myths on 911", is
another article repressing the true 911 facts. While,
National Geographic Channel's Whitewash of the Ali Mohamed Story is as
well. See:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-lance/triple-cross-nat-geo-
cha_b_28270.html
2.) Government "incompetence' or skill?
In David Corn's article "When Conspiracy Theories Go Bad",
http://www.alternet.org/story/12536 , he alleges that the government is
'too incompetent', (and not 'evil enough'), to carry out 911. (I do
agree with Mr. Corn on the former, (incompetence, Smile!, as evidenced
by this expose', et al); but, as to its level of evil, (if one were to
spend a few moments reviewing that material available on their
countless huge crimes, people would be, (to be frank with you),
overwhelming and shocked to the core.) However, because it is neither
my contention, nor my purpose, to overwhelm people, I will limit my
comments to a few topics, that can be offered as a 'beginning' in the
elucidation of this very factual darkness.
Some 'general' topic areas include:
(1) Government sponsored terror:
For example: 911, the OK City bombing, 1993 WTC bombing, WACO,
Columbine, TWA FLT 800, Ruby Ridge, and many other incidents, are ALL
government sponsored terror. (ie. carried out in conjunction with, or
by, government agents. Many impeccable reports exist on these specific
incidents, that are far more than mere allegations. Unfortunately most
of that information is withheld from the majority of the people.
Here are a set of links that begin this exposition:
THE LITTLETON (Columbine High School) MASSACRE The Mystery Deepens 1999
Link:
http://beyond-the-illusion.com/files/Current-Events/Littleton-Massacre/
theLittletonMassacreMysteryDeepens.txt
Mirror Site: http://www.rense.com/politics2/littleton2.htm
Concerning the OK City Bombing: "Secrets of Timothy McVeigh
Lingering questions about the Oklahoma City bombing" by Jim Crogan The
L.A. Weekly 04/01/04 http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/18/news-crogan.php
And also: "The 1993 WTC Bombing Coverup" by Patrick Briley
http://www.newswithviews.com/Briley/Patrick4.htm
On 911, as well as OK City and 1993 ETC bombing:: CHERTOFF CREATED
TERROR PRETEXTS FOR US POLICE STATE Patrick Briley February 21, 2005
(excerpt) http://www.newswithviews.com/Briley/Patrick4.htm , and: DID
H.W. BUSH, CLINTON OFFICIALS ORCHESTRATE OKC BOMBING? Patrick Briley
http://www.newswithviews.com/Briley/Patrick17.htm Lastly: "Who's really
the terrorist?" By Dr. Kosmotar
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/062504Katzspliff/
062504katzspliff.html
In another 'general' area:
(2) Mind control programs, (by the CIA, in conjunction with other
organizations, including: political, (and other), assassinations,
pedophile sex slave rings, et al.) The Book: "The Franklin Cover-up"
by former Nebraska US Senator John deCamp, concerns a large, pedophile
sex ring, (who customers are high ranking politicians in major public
offices.) One of the many links:
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/franklincoverupexcerpt.shtml Another
related case: "The JonBenet Ramsey Case: Emerging Child Sex-Ring
Allegations, Political Connections and a Suspect" By Alex Constantine
Link:
http://www.newsmakingnews.com/
archive4,24,4,29,00.htm#Introduction:%20The%20Belinda%20Schultz%20file
Related incidents (associated with mind control include, but are
not limited to): The Columbine high school massacre, (see the above
link: 'THE LITTLETON MASSACRE'; The Jonestown cult massacre, See: WACO,
VINCE FOSTER, THE SECRET WAR -- BUSH VS NWO?
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=4839 , and for
the JFK, RFK, MLK assassinations, (See: Mind Control 'Programmed'
Individuals http://educate-yourself.org/mc/ (along with numerous
other horrific minf control related crimes.)
Other areas include:
(3) Drug running
(4) money laundering
(5) bank fraud, {Ten's, if not, (much more likely), hundreds of
Trillions of dollars have been stolen, laundered, etc.} begin by
investigate the Bush family involvement in the Silverado S&L scandal,
the BCCI bank scandal, the background behind the Enron scandal, and
many, many others.
Sample articles: Bush Family Value$ By Stephen Pizzo
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1992/09/bushboys.html also:
'Frauds-R-Us’ The Bush Family Saga Part II:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3308.htm , and also:
"9/11 Whistleblower Andrew Grove Comes Forward" www.Meria.net and
Mirror site:
http://culhavoc.blogsome.com/2006/05/30/911-whistleblower-andrew-grove-
comes-forward/ (Very long, but thorough.)
Also: "Enron the ultimate agent of the American empire" by Larry Chin
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/ultAgent.html#p7
Another example on what the monied are elite are doing to our money =20
supply:
"The Fiction of Government Debt":
http://openingmind.blogspot.com/2006_05_01_openingmind_archive.html
and:
"The FED's Cancellation of the M3 Money Supply" by Catherine
Austin Fitts Former US HUD Director:
http://www.solariactionnetwork.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=9796
Other general areas:
(6) Chemtrail program,
(7) the HAARP weather/earthquake etc. manipulation, and the,
(8) bioweapons programs, (and their use in depopulation). Examples
include: the fake 'terrorist' 2001 anthrax attacks, (where weapons
grade Ames Iowa anthrax was only controlled by two US bio-weapons
labs); also, the spreading of disease for profit and population
control:
See: ENRON, CHENEY, 9/11, LIVE HIJACKERS, & DEAD MICROBIOLOGISTS
PART 1 of 2:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd162.htm PART 2 of 2
http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd163.htm or, "Flu Mongers
Washington’s vaccine scams" by William Thomas 11/23/06:
http://www.willthomas.net/Convergence/Weekly/Flu_Pandemic.htm or,
"MYCOPLASMA The Linking Pathogen in Neurosystemic Diseases"
http://nexusmagazine.com/articles/mycoplasma.html Mycoplasma have been
"engineered" to be more dangerous.
Also: "Arkansas prison blood scandal"
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47128 and,
"UNICEF Nigerian Polio Vaccine Contaminated with Sterilizing Agents
Scientist Finds":
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/mar/04031101.html and,
U.S. DESPERATELY SEEKING TO DISMISS AIDS ORIGIN LAWSUIT 06/19/05
http://www.dldewey.com/may04.htm (and more.)
Not to mention:
(9) Concentration Camps being built, (and for whom?): "$385 Million
contact for Halliburton to build Concentration camps":
http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2816
(None of the reasons being given by the government for these camps,
(such as: to hold 'illegal immigrants', when illegal immigrants are
NEVER arrested, but immediately returned to their country), and since,
(the 'North American Union' - a consolidation of the US, Mexico and
Canada into a super-state), is being planned for 2007, (thus making
'illegal immigrants' nearly an impossible issue. Where are these
illegal immigrants supposedly coming from? Cuba? (Hardly an issue
there.))
Most people do not have the psychology to fathom the magnitude of
evil capable of the people that have created this very real and world
wide attempt at world domination, (to include the genocide of certain
racial, ethic, etc groups, such as those in the Middle-East, (using DU,
war, and intentional stirring of civil war), designed to depopulate
these races/peoples.
In the US, during the Katrina disaster, multiple witnesses went
all the way to Washington D.C. to testify before Congress, concerning
the intentional demolition of the inner city levies in New Orleans.
(Some that testified were 60 & 70 year old ladies whom undoubtedly had
better things to do, cleaning up their homes, yet they knew they had to
testify to this huge crime. The levies in the inner city received no
'storm surge', (not being located either on the ocean or lake front),
and were indeed not 'topped' by the storm.) Also, some of these levies
that 'failed', were recently built with reinforced concrete and steel,
and simply would not have failed under the conditions present. The
eye/ear witnesses testified that loud explosions occurred just prior to
the water rushing in. See:
"Locals, Officials Suggest Levees were Intentionally Blown" Link:
http://prisonplanet.com/Pages/090905levees.htm and also,
"The 17th Street Canal Levy Was Breeched On Purpose":
http://www.aztlan.net/new_orleans_land_grab.htm
This was one of many, (very deliberate), acts taken to remove
'unwanted' groups of people from New Orleans. (Call it social
engineering, or genocide, (both which are true), it was intentional,
and it was murder.
So what are these people capable of?
If one were to truly understand the magnitude of these crimes,
(and the total disregard for life that they represent), then a person
would no longer question the level of, the magnitude of the evil they
represent, and would not underestimate what they are capable of.
Love, Steve