Paul,

That we cannot go on using oil at the present rate is a given. That
there are no realistic alternatives is, in my opinion, not. That the
situation is one of a dramatic unavailability of the amount of petroleum
necessary to hold world culture together while we find other ways to go
forward, is, I would argue, an idea being strongly put forward in the
mind control apparatus (mainstream corporate/militarist media) as a tool
of manipulation. Where is the information that we suddenly don't have
enough supply to cope with social stability coming from? Who are these
experts and who are they beholden to? Why is the hotly debated, very
well established (in the Soviet Union, and certainly among the
scientists in the "energy" corporations) and functional (having
transformed the Soviet oil industry) theories of abiotic oil so
emotionally loaded in the context of the idea of peak oil? While there
may not have been recent "major discoveries" (at least that have made it
into the knowledge of the mainstream), there are millions of barrels of
oil flowing out of Russia that would not be available now without the
knowledge of the chemical processes by which oil is produced in the deep
mantle of the earth.

Did you know that the oil companies have greatly reduced their
exploration budgets in the last years? Did you know that Shell Oil
bought a refinery in Bakersfield with a more than ample supply of
petroleum guaranteed it from the Kern County oil fields for the next
couple of decades at a minimum, yet while it was producing record
profits on a scale never seen in its history, they tried not to sell it
so another company, but to completely demolish it completely even though
they paid good money for it and it is in a well maintained condition? If
we truly believe that oil is running out and that there are no practical
alternatives, what is left but fear and leaving it to the militarists to
battle it out for the endgame on this planet? If the alternative to mass
die-offs would be paying even much higher prices for crude, don't you
think we could pay it for some time while we find ways to restructure
our lives?

Are you ready to start thinking about who should die first? Are you
looking at the arguments being put forward carefully and considering
their implications? All of the ideas you have presented me in your two,
brief, emphatic replies are ones I am very familiar with, and have
considered at length. Do you want to sell and live in fear, the great
commodity on which the current drive toward empire depends? I am hoping
you understand that I am not attacking you personally, but hoping that
you will use your efforts in helping to keep people informed in a
situation where good information is crucially important, to weigh facts
and communicate the whole picture.

Peace,
Bruce


Globalcircle wrote:

>Oil companies have long tried to rip off the consumer, nothing new. In the
>business world, price doesn't just reflect cost of production plus profit,
>it also reflects expected shortages and consumer demand. The fact there's
>profiteering going on doesn't alter the fact no new major fields are being
>found and brought online, that world demand is still rising, that high
>grade, low cost oil is being depeleted too fast, and there are no realistic
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>>It's not that abiotic oil (basically an irrefutable fact - it's the
>>*only* kind of oil, as the "energy" corporations know well) is "any
>>answer" to the massive crisis facing us all, it's that it's a major
>>piece of the puzzle regarding what our situation is and what the
>>information/mind war is pushing us toward. We are actually swimming in
>>oil, if you consider the millions of barrels consumed per day. However,
>>the incredibly sudden way in which we are now being told that the peak
>>is hitting us in a way that the global shortfall threatens our safety
>>and civilization overnight without warning is, I am convinced after a
>>reasonable amount of study, correctly characterized as a scam.
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>>The oil cartels are currently able to get beaucoup of cheap oil. Their
>>costs of production have not appreciably changed (unless you factor in
>>the costs of war, which they don't pay) since the $20 a barrel days.
>>Where is the extra $30/barrel going? Are the "educated" classes more
>>disposed to accept the imperialism of the US shadow government based on
>>the sudden widespread broadcasting of the Peak Oil meme? Is it a
>>coincidence that people including Michael Ruppert are talking seriously
>>about how to go about "humanely" "deciding" about how to order the
>>"inevitable" die-off facing humanity in the now suddenly looming future?
>>Who has talked about Eugenics in the past? Who has talked about the
>>necessity of population reduction? Can these ideas be brought up in this
>>context without creating fear in a way that plays into the hands of
>>those who would spread war and enmity? (If you read the tone of
>>Ruppert's work, for instance, it would seem not).
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>>What *can* we do that will help us toward peace in our hearts and
>>therefore actions?
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>>Yours in creating a world that works,
>>Bruce
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>>>I've seen that article and it's been discussed. If a-biotic oil was any
>>>answer to depletion we'd all be swimming in oil right now. If any country
>>>or group in the world was able to get cheap oil somehow, nobody could
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>>>--paul, webmaster http://globalcircle.net
>>>peace and liberty, sustainability and justice
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>>>>I notice you are sending out multiple messages hammering on the
>>>>imminence of the crash of available oil supplies, and the dire
>>>>implications thereof. I urge you to check out the information on the
>>>>linked site, particularly the work of Dave McGowan on this issue. Please
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>>>>oil at the present rate for much longer... Quoting from the article
>>>>"Running on Empty:"
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>>>>"Remarkably, when it comes to thinking about peak
>>>>oil and what it means for the future of America,
>>>>Wall Street analysts and neocons are taking the
>>>>lead, while the former oil man from Midland keeps
>>>>his head up his tailpipe."
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>>>>Aren't those Neocons prescient?
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>>>>http://educate-yourself.org/cn/davemcgowanstalinandabioticoil05mar05.shtm
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